When the scammer is in your ear at the bank counter
A woman walked into an ANZ branch in South Australia and asked to withdraw enough cash to buy a car.
The teller, Vicki, asked her what car.
She couldn't say. Not the make, not the model. She just kept repeating that she needed the money today.
She kept her money, because a teller slowed things down and kept talking. Not everyone does.
What's actually changed
ANZ staff report that more customers are arriving at the counter while still connected to the scammer — headphones in, or a phone tucked into a pocket, taking live instructions on exactly what to say as the conversation happens.
Not a story learned in advance. A voice in the ear, adjusting.
And it doesn't stop when the bank's systems notice. ANZ say the rehearsed answers are often repeated after a transaction has already been flagged for review.
Why this one is different
Nearly every protection you have assumes one thing: that when someone asks you a direct question about your money, you will answer it honestly.
- The fraud engine flags an unusual transfer — then a human asks you what it's for.
- The teller notices something odd — and asks a probing question.
- The bank rings to verify — and asks you to confirm.
The tell isn't the story. It's the emptiness behind it.
You cannot spot a coached answer by whether it sounds plausible. “I'm buying a car” is entirely plausible. So is a home renovation, a family loan, moving money between your own accounts.
What a real reason has is a life behind it. You know the make and the model. You know the tradesman's name and when he's starting. You've been talking about it for weeks.
A given reason is one sentence with nothing underneath. Ask a second question and there is no second answer.
Three things nobody legitimate ever does
You don't need to judge whether a story is true. You need to notice an instruction no honest party would give.
- Stay on the line while you go in. No bank needs to be connected to you inside a branch. Ever.
- Tell you to deny being told. “If they ask whether anyone instructed you, say no.” Nothing legitimate requires you to conceal that you were advised.
- Cast the staff as the obstacle. “They'll try to stop you.” “They're not trained on this.” “The bank doesn't want you making money.” A real bank tells you the opposite: be honest with us, that's the point of asking.
The honest bit: what a checking service can and can't do
We build a scam-checking service, so this is where we're supposed to tell you it solves this. It doesn't, and pretending otherwise would be its own small con.
Where checking does work is earlier and sideways:
- Earlier. Almost none of these start at the counter. They start with a text, an email or a first call — something forwardable, days before anyone withdraws anything. That message is stoppable, and it's the one worth checking.
- Sideways. When a check comes back as a scam, the people who chose to be told get told. That matters precisely because the person in the middle has been captured. Someone outside the call learns something is happening — and one phone call from a daughter can do what no warning to the victim will.
What actually works: a rule agreed in advance
Coaching defeats judgement in the moment, so the defence cannot be judgement in the moment. It has to be a decision already made, when nobody was frightened.
- Agree the one rule, out loud. “Nobody from a bank will ever ask you to stay on the phone while you move money.” Said to each other now, it becomes a rule being broken rather than a judgement to make under pressure.
- Agree that hanging up is always allowed. Nobody legitimate is offended by being rung back. Give each other explicit permission to end any call about money, with no explanation owed.
- Name one person to ring first. Not for permission — just to say it out loud. Coaching depends entirely on the victim never speaking to anyone outside the call.
- Say plainly that being caught is not shameful. The people who lose the most are the ones too embarrassed to ask. Removing the shame in advance is a practical control, not a kindness.
If you think it's happening right now
- Ask them to hang up — not mute, not speaker. Hang up entirely. A live scammer will otherwise talk over you.
- Ring the bank yourself, on the number on the back of their card. Tell them what you think is happening. Banks would far rather take that call and be wrong.
- If they're already at a branch, tell a staff member. They are trained for exactly this, and they can slow it down — which is what saved the woman in Adelaide.
- Afterwards, be kind about it. How this is handled decides whether you hear about the next one.
For scale: Australians reported losing $2.18 billion to scams in 2025. People over 65 are about 17 per cent of the population and 26.5 per cent of the losses, with the highest median loss of any age group — though the group statistically most likely to be scammed at all is 35 to 44. This is not only something that happens to older people.
Common questions
What is scam coaching?
It is when a scammer stays in contact with the victim while they carry out the transaction, telling them what to say to bank staff. ANZ branch staff report customers arriving with headphones in or a phone tucked into a pocket, receiving real-time instructions during the conversation at the counter. The victim is given a cover story - buying a car, home renovations, moving money between their own accounts - so they have an answer ready if anyone questions the payment.
Why is this worse than other scams?
Because it defeats the last line of defence. A bank's fraud system flagging a transfer, and a teller asking a probing question, both assume the customer will answer honestly. Coaching turns the person into the scammer's instrument. ANZ report the rehearsed answers are often still repeated after their own systems have flagged the transaction.
How would anyone tell the difference between a real reason and a rehearsed one?
By detail, not by plausibility. A real reason has a life behind it - you know the make and model, the tradesman's name, the date it's due. A given reason is a single sentence with nothing underneath. The ANZ case that made this concrete was an elderly woman who wanted cash to buy a car and could not name what car. The story was fine; the emptiness behind it was the tell.
What is the one rule to remember?
No real bank, police officer or government agency will ever ask you to stay on the phone while you go into a branch, use an ATM, or make a transfer. Not one. If someone wants to stay connected while you move money, that is the scam, whatever else they have told you. It needs no expertise to apply and it does not depend on spotting anything.
Can a scam-checking service stop this while it's happening?
Honestly, no - not at the counter. Someone being coached in real time is not going to stop and forward anything; they have usually been told not to trust the very people trying to help. Where checking works is earlier, on the message that started it, and sideways, through the alert that reaches the rest of the family. We would rather say that plainly than claim a protection we cannot deliver.
What should I do if I think a relative is being coached right now?
Ask them to hang up the call, not to mute it or put it on speaker - hang up entirely. Then ring the bank yourself on the number on the back of their card, and tell the branch or the fraud team what you think is happening. Banks would far rather take that call and be wrong. If they are already at a branch, tell a staff member: they are trained for this and they can slow it down.
Is it embarrassing to be caught by this?
It should not be, and treating it as shameful is part of what keeps it working. These scams are run by professionals with scripts, and they succeed on accountants and finance directors as readily as on anyone else. The people who lose the most are those who feel too foolish to ask - which is why agreeing a rule out loud, in advance, does more than any amount of caution.
Who is most affected?
In the ACCC's 2025 figures, Australians reported losing $2.18 billion to scams. People over 65 make up about 17 per cent of the population but 26.5 per cent of total losses, and have the highest median loss of any age group. People aged 35 to 44 are statistically the most likely to be scammed at all - which is worth saying, because this is not only a scam that happens to older people.
Check the message, before the phone call
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